tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post4408022468183786684..comments2015-03-12T19:55:51.970+00:00Comments on cineosis: Enter the Void (Gaspar Noé, France | Germany | Italy, 2009)david deamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17197693140510657939noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post-8752665026104814722015-03-10T23:49:13.149+00:002015-03-10T23:49:13.149+00:00Absolutely fantastic review. Need to brush up on m...Absolutely fantastic review. Need to brush up on my Deleuze to get to grips with the analysis but excellent nonetheless! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post-77260529164024969112010-10-31T21:58:05.230+00:002010-10-31T21:58:05.230+00:00JeanRZEJ:
'Is this too much to ask for? Absol...JeanRZEJ: <br />'Is this too much to ask for? Absolutely. Do I ask anyway? I can't help myself.'<br /><br />Dedicated to you...<br /><br />http://cineosis.blogspot.com/2010/10/self-made-gillian-wearing-uk-2010.html<br /><br />Thank you for your digressions... digressions are what interest me most...david deamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17197693140510657939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post-21427281356765326522010-10-27T08:23:23.380+01:002010-10-27T08:23:23.380+01:00I guess I understand that you're trying to tak...I guess I understand that you're trying to take what you feel is the most applicable strand of Deleuze's thought in approaching this film, but, on the other hand, since there are so few other written pieces out there that display even the most basic amount of thought and reflection (I've browsed many - MANY) I was sorely disappointed when you so clearly and thoughtfully approached a certain aspect of the film and not every other aspect. Is this too much to ask for? Absolutely. Do I ask anyway? I can't help myself. You can just ignore me. I have a rather rudimentary understanding of Deleuze (if any understanding at all), but your insights are both clear and insightful, and for that I thank you immensely.<br /><br />I will admit that I guessed from context that he was reincarnated as his sister's baby, but I read that Noé had filmed two versions and chosen the one with the mother and, on reflecting, my memory (referring to the recurring memory of breast feeding from a first-person perspective) seemed to validate this claim (and he seems to toy with the media, so validation is certainly necessary). I wish I had experienced a nipple-driven epiphany, but this is not the case. Someday, I can only hope. You and I both need to pay more attention to nipples, it seems. However, with the knowledge that it is the mother comes the possibility that he is actually reborn in his sister's body, thereby solidifying the promise that they made to stay together forever in a strange, Being John Malkovich sort of way. I'm not sure that's what is implied, but the possibility is not excluded, and I kind of think it's an amazing and creepy possibility in all the right ways.<br /><br />Speaking of that scene, it also triggered another point of thought - that the end, with a white room from a baby's perspective facing its mother's spherical (perhaps elliptical - let's not get technical!) breast, was a lot like the end of 2001 (referenced in the television screens in The Void just before the drug bust) with a third person view of the baby in the blackness of space facing the spherical earth. Just before that we have a facsimile of an earthly apartment, with the surrealist touch of a glowing white floor and an old man laying in bed. In Noe's film we have a facsimile of a hotel, with the surrealist touch of neon everywhere and the film's cast in different rooms doing something a little more active in various beds and elevators. Going back again in 2001 there is a scene of a multicolored light show 'trip' through space, whereas the preceding scene in Noé's film there is a trip through the skies and streets of Tokyo. To me, Noé is clearly reinterpreting the end of 2001, if not the entirety of the film, in a more earthbound, terrestrial sense. He replaces the vaccuum of space for the neon lit streets of Tokyo, the black monoliths of our solar system and Beyond the Infinite for the Tibetan Book of the Dead (replete with its psychadelic cover), and the evolution of Man for the interpersonal reverberations of the actions of a simple man. I'm with you on this possibility of the Book of the Dead: 'this may all be a ruse'. Certainly Kubrick's monoliths are all a ruse, which is not to use it in a pejorative sense. If we were looking for those 'pragmatic interpretations' which we don't have and apparently don't need for 2001 but which people seem to clamor for over Enter the Void we could say that his recent encounter with the Book of the Dead influences his dreams and... that's the film. I don't find it necessary, and it doesn't seem you do, either.<br /><br />So, in conclusion, I digress. I'm not sure how much this digression interests you in the context of this application of Deleuze's thought to the film, but here it is nonetheless. Enjoy!JeanRZEJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04530242176130470336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post-54418954108264229042010-10-13T08:27:15.394+01:002010-10-13T08:27:15.394+01:00Hi Dan... good to hear from you... yeah, I checked...Hi Dan... good to hear from you... yeah, I checked out the The Stranger article... I liked that a lot, he made some great connections, still thinking about the Hegel/Antigone link... not entirely sure that works cos Hegel's point was Antigone was cuaght between two ethical positions, the law and the family in respect of burying her brother's body. <br /><br />As for 'pataphysics... I don't know enough about this. There is early Buadrillard of course. Tho I hear some worrying statements, such as it can be considered a religion! However, not sure if that comes from its detractors or is an ironic joke. So, in short, be very happy to read what you write on the subject. <br /><br />And yes... going beyond metaphor... I guess this is the 'pataphor. Interestingly, Deleuze doesnt believe even metaphors exist. Rather, there are just resonances between concepts (philosophy), functions (science) and sensations (art) and thier components/functives/percepts and affects. <br /><br />Good luck with that. Hope you enjoy the movie and write something too... post the link on here if you do so I can read it!<br /><br />Take it easy...<br /><br />ddavid deamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17197693140510657939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post-22992554384297493982010-10-10T00:15:04.977+01:002010-10-10T00:15:04.977+01:00Charles Mudede (writer on Police Beat and Zoo) has...Charles Mudede (writer on Police Beat and Zoo) has a pretty good take on the film. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/blood-bone-metal-ghosts-rectums-rapes/Content?oid=5062444<br /><br />I haven't seen it, but I've been interested in reading films in terms of 'pataphysics as of late; do you think this would lend itself? It seems from the moment the film comes back from the white-out and inhabits the brother's ghost we are beyond metaphor.<br /><br />(ps. this is Dan who was in your first year Narrative module, friend of S)D. Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629124673589292567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post-16039830412784072252010-10-09T13:58:38.827+01:002010-10-09T13:58:38.827+01:00Thanks Noyster, that is very kind of you. I hope y...Thanks Noyster, that is very kind of you. I hope you enjoy Enter the Void when it gets to your territory... if you want, when you have seen the film let me know what you think...david deamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17197693140510657939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7868704037645806801.post-82423386228878734212010-10-07T10:17:36.225+01:002010-10-07T10:17:36.225+01:00Fantastic analysis, I must say. Haven't seen t...Fantastic analysis, I must say. Haven't seen the film yet, but your writings force me to watch it sooner than later. I really like how you analysed the film in terms of the time-image. You make clear use of the different signs and have elaborated nicely on the focus on the noosign/-sphere. 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